Episode 112: History of D&C 132 (The 1843 Revelation), Part One

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  • Lara Wallace

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    I was listening to the podcast and noticed that your first guest talks about Swedenborg. I attend a Swedenborian New Church group and have been a member of the lds my entire life. I was saddened to hear a lot of mis information about Swedenborg that he said to try and support his thesis. It’s simply not true. First of all the 3 degrees of heaven is internal. So it starts outward and goes internal to the core. Heaven is a state of mind and we can attain it here on earth Also, polygamy is the opposite of conjugial love. It is abhorent, it is not in heaven. Marriage Love is the highest form of love between two individuals as they are one in spirit It’s a spiritual love of the highest unity. It is not sexual. It does not mean they will be propagating kids in heaven because they are no longer physical beings. They are considered angels not Gods as there is only one God. looking to the Lord for love and wisdom; and eventually it unites them together as “one. Swedenborg also gives a deeper meaning to our Lord’s words, relating to the union of good and truth, which must have taken place in one’s heart before one ever gets to Heaven The marriage is spiritual as it is the spiritual world it is not the physical world anymore. Swedenborg’s heaven is not highly sexual. I do believe that he was influenced by Swedenborg as there are over 52 Swedenborg specific phrases that are in the book of Mormon.Swedenborg influenced countless people. I was truly dissapointed with what was said about him.

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    • Jeffrey Adams

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      I am writing a paper on the “state of the question” in respect to possible Swedenborgian influences on Joseph Smith (or his scribes) and stumbled here as researchers are wont to do. If you are still out there Lara could you forward a reference for the 52 specific phrases in both ES and BOM? I assume it is a digital humanities finding and may come across it in the future, but thought I’d ask. As a Swedenborgian scholar/adherent I understand your concerns about Sheldon’s representation of some aspects of ES’s doctrines. However, Swedenborg’s corpus is so vast a spirit of charity, that is, positive intent is warranted. Your explanations are quite good and I am curious what group you are participating? I would only contextualize the abhorrence of polygamy statement with the passages in Conjugial Love that provide separate heavens for those who practice it as a matter of religion, albeit, as you stress, it prevents a conjunction of spirit monogamous marriages provide. Hope to hear from you or others with references. Best, J-

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  • Steve Park

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    Joseph Smith’s conception of heaven may not have matched entirely with Swedenborg’s, but it seems pretty obvious to me that the idea of three separate heavenly kingdoms was one that Joseph appropriated from Swedenborg. As for physical conjugal relations and polygamy in heaven, Joseph may have been inspired by Islam:

    http://www.questionsonislam.com/question/does-sexual-life-exist-paradise

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    It was Orson Hyde who went to Jerusalem, not Orson Pratt, correct? I think the two names were confused in this episode.

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    • Lindsay Hansen Park

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      Yes, thank you. I actually made three errors in this by being lazy in my language, this was one. The other one had to do with me conflating John C. Bennett and the Cochranites as if he were part of their movement. What I meant to say is that he was also an influencer in the spiritual wife doctrine like they were. I also say the Proclamation of the Family comes out because of Prop 8, and I really was talking about the Amend. 4 (Hawaii’s version of Prop 8).

      So thanks for poiting this out. Yes, it’s Orson Hyde. Orson Pratt served his mission to England.

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